Crashes and Today’s Release Candidate

We’ve been reading your blog comments and receiving your in-world messages and crash reports throughout the day. We know that some of you are experiencing crashes upon starting today’s 1.18.4 Release Candidate, and apologize to those of you who have been on the receiving end of this (I’m one of them!).

We believe some empty URIs may be the culprit, but we are still working to isolate some variables right now.

Please help us to better isolate and correct these crashes by sharing the following information with us:

  • Your operating system (Mac, PC, etc.)
  • Your network configuration (at work or at home, behind a firewall or not, wireless or not)
  • The name of your Internet service provider (ISP)
  • The type of router you have

Please provide this information, ideally, as a bug report in the PJIRA I’ve created to track these crashes (VWR-2813) or as a comment to this post (but remember, comments are capped at 100, and I’d really like to ensure we get as many reports as possible).

Thank you for your participation and your patience today.

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150 Responses to Crashes and Today’s Release Candidate

  1. thegrimmling Snook says:

    I am on a DMZ (no firewall) DSL through AT&T direct connect with allowing “SLVoice” to run. (Never had to do that befor)

    It also h”hanged” when clearing the cache. IT IS PURE EVIL AND WILL ADD OVER AN HOUR OF TRYING TO REVERT BACK IF YOU LIKE THAT!!!!

    Oh, Windows XP.

  2. tito young says:

    I am through cable interent PLUS running wireless. I’ve notice complete sluggish behavior prior to full system down. Tends to also be related to crossing sims.

    XP
    laptop
    slvoice running
    skype running

  3. Web Page says:

    XP Pro
    DSL, firewalled (standard)
    wired
    AT&T

    The release candidate seems ok as did all versions previously (to normal degree). I think I skipped one release candidate right before the new one’s release so that one may not have worked

    I CAN NOT LOG IN TO THE CURRENT CLIENT (I can log in, and appear in world, revieve data to light up green dots on my minimap… ) but my bandwidth completely chokes off before I can do anything at all.

  4. Samara Barzane says:

    PC XP
    Wireless, XP firewall
    Wide Open West — Cable
    D-Link

  5. thegrimmling Snook says:

    oh, I was also using wireless, but for my connection that is not an issue. I should of known there was an issue when the client was 6 megs smaller than they official release. This one is pure evil and will damage everything about you. Forgive the previous spelling. I was too upset.

  6. IKE Yalin says:

    Your operating system (Mac, PC, etc.)
    Your network configuration (at work or at home, behind a firewall or not, wireless or not)
    The name of your Internet service provider (ISP)
    The type of router you have

    Windows Vista (PC)
    DSL,Firewall
    Cox High-Speed Internet
    Webstar

  7. thegrimmling Snook says:

    Seriously, I will NEVER trust a Release Canedate EVER AGAIN posted on the blog after this. This was my first time and the damage caused by it is almost unforgivable. Did you even test this?

  8. Berry Steinhoff says:

    Windows XP Pro SP2
    Cable, Windows Firewall, LinkSYS Router (also firewalled)
    NTL Hell, now Virgin Media
    LinkSYS Wireless Router (cable connection tho), no DMZ.

  9. Pericat Aquitaine says:

    Made unrelated change to region setting (Block Parcel Search, then uncheck Block…) the region maturnity setting reverted to PG and would not allow itself to be changed back to Mature.

    iMac:

    CPU: Dual i386 (Unknown) (2000 MHz)
    Memory: 2048 MB
    OS Version: Darwin 8.10.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.22.5~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
    Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
    Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1600 OpenGL Engine
    OpenGL Version: 2.0 ATI-1.4.56
    LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)

  10. Psistorm Ikura says:

    @7: what even happened that is so gruesome to you? o_O

  11. Argent Stonecutter says:

    I always clear the cache manually by deleting the cache directory – SL seems to be particularly slow about just deleting a bunch of files.

    Clearing the cache got rid of my RC crash problems, but I don’t do anything in SL that involved URIs that I’m aware of (no streaming, no web pages in people’s profiles, …).

  12. Carita Marama says:

    PC, at home, with Norton firewall.

    Not wireless.

    talktalk.net

    No router, two pcs on direct ethernet connection.

    Thanks for getting onto it so swiftly guys 🙂

  13. Votslav Hax says:

    good evening…Im operating xp, att firewalled. dsl… I crash just sitting there.. then bam ‘soft ‘ crash.. nothing…reboots and im off and running once more..
    thx for the attention you are giving this problem.. ‘good job’…

  14. Dwen Dooley says:

    in game after this post.
    PC Win XP.
    Verizon FIOS with the router/firewall configured per your specs
    SL Release candidate froze with the lag warning of too many complex objects. Windows saw SL as not responding. I gave it 5-7 minutes and it didn’t come back so I axed SL and restarted wiindoze. I’m back on at the old version

  15. Ann Otoole says:

    lol… well its not really funny but it is in a way. i have no clue how you guys managed to pull off this bug…

    i teleported and my camera view stayed in the sim i was in while my avatar went to the new sim really really fast. until i pressed escape at which time my cam instantly went to the new sim.

  16. jeffrey weka says:

    I usually don’t post to these blogs…but honestly I can’t say I have seen
    any issues, if anything it’s running smoother so far.

    Sometimes I feel like SL bashing too, but Im also willing to give you
    guys credit when its due. Way to go! (This time)

  17. Votslav Hax says:

    …sorry one more thing…everytime i open this blog or internet explorer.. i get a crash and a ‘blurb’ box that says that a ‘mangled stream has been detected and that to remidy the situation i should reinstall sl… anyone else run into this ..? thx

  18. thegrimmling Snook says:

    From looking at this blog, it seems that ONLY XP users are experiencing issues. Are there any Vista users having problems? I know XP and Vista have a different coding core base and I suspect that is the issue.

    Oh, I am on XP with SP2

  19. thegrimmling Snook says:

    Seriously, you messed up bad. This one should of never seen the light of day due to the issues. I had to even clear my registry to try and fix the problems caused by this. It has caused an over-all performance drop with my PC.

  20. Charltina Christensen says:

    Your operating system (Mac, PC, etc.)
    Your network configuration (at work or at home, behind a firewall or not, wireless or not)
    The name of your Internet service provider (ISP)
    The type of router you have

    Windows Vista (PC)
    DSL,Firewall
    Comcast Cable High-Speed Internet
    Motorolla

  21. Jayden B says:

    No problems in Mac OS X apart from what I PJIRAed.

    @1,5,7,19 thegrimmling Snook – Only 100 comments, we heard you the first time. leave some space for others PLEASE. And… this is a release candidate. It is for testing, looking for just these bugs. If you are *that* sensative then stick to the production versions.

  22. Wizard Gynoid says:

    I was about to install the upgrade. since i’m on XP, don’t think i will now, until i hear this is resolved.

    better safe than sorry…

  23. Michael Timeless says:

    Well I guess I’ll be the bearer of the good news.

    3 different systems. All XP2

    System one Intel Quad Core Series Processor
    WOW cable Terayon TJ715 Router
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    Memory: 8188 MB
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    NVidia Dual GeForce 8800 GTS (640) cards

    System 2 Pentium 4
    Memory: 2047 MB
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 7600 GS/PCI/SSE2
    1701HG Gateway AT&T Wired connection

    System three Lenovo (IBM) Laptop
    CPU Intel Core Series Processor (1662)
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    Cisco 350 wireless card
    1701HG Gateway AT&T Wireless

    No problem with any of the systems connecting multiple connections.

  24. sonicwolf spitteler says:

    pc
    xp sp2 , xp firewall off
    not wireless
    australian isp g-node
    d-link 604 t router.

    packet loss through the roof , have been having this issue for a long while.

  25. sonicwolf spitteler says:

    sorry should also say
    p4 3 gig cpu
    ati 9600 256 video
    gig of ram

    1.5mb braodband

  26. F. Emert says:

    -XP Home Service Pack 2

    -5MBPS Internet landlined to a Netgear router/modem combination with wireless capabilities

    -Internet provided by Charter Communications

    – 1 Gigabyte of ram with a 1.8ghz AMD Athlon XP processor. 256mb GeForce 6600 Graphics card, one 80 gigabyte internal harddrive, one 500 Gigabyte external

    -Logged in alright the first time I got the update, but a failed teleport forced me to log out. After that, every time i would try to log in to Secondlife Release Candidate, it would crash.

  27. Suzi Phlox says:

    XP sp 2
    home net
    linksys router
    sbc

    While installing it put three shortcuts on my desktop…none of which worked. Workaround was to find the .exe file and click that. Then made new shortcut for desktop from exe. The original three in the install seem to have been from the clipboard. (???) Very strange. Now i have signed in and it seems stable.
    Good luck….and thanks for all your efforts!

  28. Katherine Taney says:

    Win XP64
    ISP Qwest
    Behind both an Actiontec router and a Linksys switch, wired
    Crashes when switching from verifying cache files to logging in
    Standard client works fine

  29. 14 crashes within an hour…. (XP – laptop, 2 GB, new equipment, router ADSL, 6 MB connection)

    I think alomst the premium account amounts are not worth to be paid anymore…

    A decent web service like my own provider has (99.999% uptime !) should be the goal of you, Lindens!

    I pay for a service, so it should be kept UP!

    All those ‘ improvements’ …. they are simply adding new bugged features…. at least that’s how i feel it…. and using SL to do my business is getting more awkward by the day… is that where i pay for? (including 19& VAT??????)

    ….. i just hope yopu take your business as serious as i take mine, or i will be gone, and with me maybe half of your premiums…

  30. mo Molinaro says:

    On vista, getting crash if i start the client as user. No crash if i execute as admin. This was not the case with previous RC, wich would start with user privilege.

  31. CPU: Dual i386 (Unknown) (2330 MHz)
    Memory: 2049 MB
    OS Version: Darwin 8.10.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.1: Wed May 23 16:33:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.22.5~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
    Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
    Graphics Card: ATI Radeon X1600 OpenGL Engine
    OpenGL Version: 2.0 ATI-1.4.56
    LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)
    Packets Lost: 328/288103 (0.1%)

    Mac, DSL at home, cable, D-Link ADSL+2 Router

    The problem is that for the first time in a whole year, I crashed about 15 or more times in 2 hours, not doing anything special (chatting, a couple of times emptying trash, or just standing still), but this has happened too on the 1.18.3.5 official viewer and even with the 1.18.2 (1), which I tried also when I was getting desperate…

  32. Nite Page says:

    XP Pro SP2

    1 gig RAM

    Comcast 1.5 ghz connection

    Sygate firewall

    NVidia Geforce 7600 (With latest drivers)

    Wireless
    ———-
    For the last two releases, and the current standard client, I crash a good bit of the time just turning my avatar or moving the camera position. And sometiees just standing in one spot. Starting yesterday I was also experiencing ‘hangs’ on the client with varying times as to how long it lasted.

    I have run full system diagnostics and everything is fine. Tweaked and adjusted settings lower – no effect.

    SL is the *only* program I run that it acts this way on, and I run a lot of varying things that cause a wide range of system loads.

  33. Sayuuri Watanabe says:

    I use a Mac OSX
    Tiger Software
    Comcast so no firewall
    Skype, Adium, and internet (sometimes running)

    Also. Everday SL crashes. I’m so annoyed at it. Usually I just stand them and in 3-20 minutes I crash. I am so frustrated with this and it has been happening since day one of SL.

  34. Cherry Czervik says:

    Your operating system: XP
    Your network configuration: Home, Firewall
    The name of your Internet service provider: BT
    The type of router you have: Voyager (dunno what that is)
    8mb broadband connection …

  35. Malakh Giles says:

    CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (2607 MHz)
    Memory: 2048 MB
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 7900 GTX/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
    OpenGL Version: 2.1.1
    LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)
    Packets Lost: 8671/1251023 (0.7%)

    PC, Cable networked (at home) behind a D-Link firewall, D-Link Router, ISP = Cox Communications

    Cannot get passed the “verifying cache” stage of the loading. Crashes immediately. Cleared cache several times and still no effect.

    Still running the official viewer fine.

  36. Sorry, I should have added that I’m using a MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.410), no firewall

  37. Sorry again! ISP: ya.com

  38. Jonny Baldwin says:

    Model Identifier: iMac7,1
    Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
    Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
    Number Of Processors: 1
    Total Number Of Cores: 2
    L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
    Memory: 4 GB
    Bus Speed: 800 MHz
    LAN connection at home, airport & air port wireless (both depending on
    which one I hop on.
    Texturing issues, crashing to the point of freezing up my systems and no pattern of anything causing the problems. Slow, slow and did I say slow proformance?

  39. Malachi Petunia says:

    It doesn’t run on the release manager’s machine and yet it is called a “Release Candidate”?

    Funny, we used to call those “bad builds”. I must not be up on this new terminology stuff.

  40. richard says:

    no crashes i’m on cox’s cable with windows vista and a n wireless and one gig of memory a duo cpu’s but you can tell when the weekend is here the tp is not working!!!

  41. Silvie Messmer says:

    not even running the release candidate and my game’s a mess since yesterdays restart!

    XP Pro
    PC Intel Core2 Duo
    1Gig ram
    Asus EN7900GT graphics card
    Zone Alarm
    DSL 3000
    T-Online (Germany)

  42. on my other pc…. (vista) SL still refuses to run at all……. and this is Q4 OF 2007 ….. lindens: WAKEY WAKEY????? WHEN WILL BE THE VISTA compatible release???

  43. Kimo Junot says:

    1G of ram….GeForce 5700LE Video card .AMD 3200xp….XP Pro… ever since you all came out with 1.18.3(5) I have sufferd many countless crashes and screen lock ups..it never seems to end..I have no idea what you all did in that update but it seems to carrry on into the one you posted today

  44. Rene Erlanger says:

    I have been using the Nicholaz SL viewer for the last 3-4 weeks now 🙂

    99% of the time it’s stable for me, i get the odd strange crash here and there. Really have no interest in downloading any viewer from SL website going on past performances. Reading all of this , does not surprise me one bit.

  45. Kahni Poitier says:

    “Comcast so no firewall”

    Excuse me?

  46. thegrimmling Snook says:

    Why was this release biuld only 32-ish megs oveer the normal 38-ish megs?

  47. KMeist Hax says:

    Aww. I was about to install RC 1.18.4… guess I’ll have to wait for a patch. At least you’re prompt about it.

  48. Shadow says:

    PC, XP, DSL, ISP firewall beyond my control

    TDS Telecom

    both wireless, and LAN

    please, the non-candidate viewer lags SO BADLY!!! (and right now it’s the only way to operate SL)

    Router’s an actiontec, not sure which version

  49. Ann Otoole says:

    editing linked prim textures… horizontal and vertical repeats are linked together. can’t change one without the other changing to the same value. this is a bad RC and can be yanked at anytime. Try again when you can write code without introducing defects in areas of code you should not have touched. time to uninstall this borked client and go back to the previous stable RC version that should have been promoted to production. This one is a huge step backwards.

  50. Vahn Dagger says:

    PC. Microsoft Windows XP SP1

    At home, no firewall, COMPUTER is wired, but connect goes though a router first. Regardless, it shoudn’t matter if it worked before. Otherwise, you’d be clipping your base even more.

    My ISP is Mediacom

    I use a Belkin wireless router

  51. Jane says:

    Client 1.18.3(5), since version 1.4.xxx it lags more and more!! (What you are doing??!!) OS=XPSP2, wired with cisco router/firewall. If port 13000 is opened or not doesnt make a difference. Please fix it better quickly instead of sooner.

  52. Salvia Homewood says:

    Actually I”m still using 1.18.2, but tonight neither teleports nor search will work at ALL. Mac, OS X 10.4.10, Time Warner Cable Roadrunner, hard-wired to cable, at home, normal Mac OS X firewall.

  53. Jane says:

    edit\
    It seems that Linden is just working like the asian bios-programmers for computer mainboards… anytime you put out “beta versions” instead of fixing first the important bugs and then make a new client for us. No worry, think over it!

  54. Dyslexia Sprawl says:

    Mac OS X 10.4.10 “Tiger”

    Power Mac G5 dual 2GHz, 1GB RAM

    RC viewer crashes on attempting to login.

  55. U M says:

    Ann 15 please give them a break. They are trying to take care of the matter in a logical format. True they should be doing other fixes, this issues seems to be a seriuos one which they have real ly no idea what they are dealing with.

  56. TaraLi Jie says:

    Second Life 1.18.4 (0) Oct 18 2007 14:35:06 (Second Life Release Candidate)

    You are at [REDACTED]
    (63.210.159.131:13006)
    Second Life Server 1.18.3.71877

    CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+
    Memory: 3033 MB
    OS Version: Linux 2.6.22.9-61.fc6 #1 SMP Thu Sep 27 18:48:03 EDT 2007 i686
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
    OpenGL Version: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19
    LLMozLib Version: 1.1.0 (Mozilla GRE:1.8.0.12_0000000000)
    Packets Lost: 8845/1091883 (0.8%)
    Viewer Digest: 7a868e42-a6ac-87f3-1d8d-ab3ce5df6460

    Since there’s no way to tell as far as I can see from the above listed info – and I understand it’s actually virtually impossible to do programmatically at all, it’s a 128MB video card.

    Once I would out *WHY* I was getting blocked (the named version in the popup didn’t *MENTION* RC…

    I’ve had no problems with it at all, to speak of. A crash at one point – but I let the crash reporter send in the dump.

  57. Rascal Ratelle says:

    iMac OS X
    Version 10.4.10
    Cable Modem, High Speed 5-6 Mbs
    ISP Shaw Internet No Fire wall
    No router.

    Hardware Overview:

    Machine Name: iMac
    Machine Model: PowerMac6,1
    CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3)
    Number Of CPUs: 1
    CPU Speed: 1.25 GHz
    L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
    Memory: 768 MB
    Bus Speed: 167 MHz
    Boot ROM Version: 4.6.8f4

    GeForce FX 5200:

    Chipset Model: GeForce FX 5200
    Type: Display
    Bus: AGP
    VRAM (Total): 64 MB
    Vendor: nVIDIA (0x10de)
    Device ID: 0x0329
    Revision ID: 0x00a2

    all crashed being experienced are related to the following : * VWR-851: Viewer Crashes in high texture environments when moving or when panning with camera.

    VWR-851 has been reopened.

    PS: I would also like to point out that the missing gestures problem is still present.

    * VWR-333: ‘Unable to load gesture.’ or ‘Gesture is missing from database.’ on login has also been reopened.

  58. U M says:

    Second Life 1.18.3 (5) Sep 20 2007 11:41:23 (Second Life Release Candidate)

    CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (3015 MHz) AMD 6000+ 125 watt
    Memory: 3327 MB ( or 4 GB)
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) ( Japanese)
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 7900 GTX/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! ( 512 MB)
    OpenGL Version: 2.1.1

    163.71 forceware drivers

    Last night i had a nightmarish gray surrounding with 3.0 or more of pocket loss. FPS was for some crazy reason extemely low.

  59. U M says:

    also i am on a 100MBPS fiber opital connection up down

  60. Montana Corleone says:

    I’m still on the normal client, not the new RC, and behaviour today has been sluggish all day, maxing red bar packet loss in lots of sims with hardly anybody in. I’ve been crashed and had to wait 5 minutes, which is unusual on a first crash. Maybe it was the rolling restart and not the RC?

    iMac 1Gb RAM OS X 10.4.10 ATI Radeon 8600 Pro 128Mb
    Home, Built in Apple firewall (but SL has perms for all comms any port), wireless
    Orange France
    SMC wirless/ethernet router

  61. Relentless Roux says:

    argggh, it’s so technical…I seem to be up and running again on both SL icons (always wondered why I have two icons) on my desktop. Here’s what I know about my computer – which ain’t much. It’s Windows XP, Shaw Hi-Speed connection with a firewall. Not wireless, D-Link router. god, do i pass the exam ( i needed a flashlight to find the router!) Thanks for fixing my connections!!
    I do crash at least once a day, sometimes twice….but that’s normal right?

  62. Tegg B says:

    Jane Says:

    October 19th, 2007 at 8:14 PM PDT
    Client 1.18.3(5), since version 1.4.xxx it lags more and more!! (What you are doing??!!) OS=XPSP2, wired with cisco router/firewall. If port 13000 is opened or not doesnt make a difference. Please fix it better quickly instead of sooner.

    Adding more bots & campers perhaps? Welcome to BOT LIFE!

  63. Skyler Goode says:

    windows XP 2 GB RAM Geforce GO 7600, 1.5MB DSL, Qwest Router, firewalled with SL exception , Things were going great on 18.3, i installed 18.4 RC and crashes now occur every 5 mins. I uninstalled the RC, but the crashes have carried over into the 18.3, even after reinstall. The RC is using 200 MB LESS memory than the regular viewer according to task manager.

  64. JohnnyB Allen says:

    Perhaps you could ease up on the one a week releases maybe do something constructive like remove the ban line nuisance

  65. Garance Kidd says:

    From France (at this moment)
    Home
    PC and Laptop Windows Vista
    No router
    Provider = Orange

  66. element says:

    no problem here, so far
    windows xp pro x64
    amd x2 3gig ram
    GeForce 7800 GT

  67. Dreamweaver Bracken says:

    Windows XP
    Cable ISP with router.
    Geforce 73000e with current drivers
    Standard firewall.
    4 Gigs Ram
    Constant freezing and crashing, huge packet loss , unstable system, unplayable SL ……please fix this .

  68. Michael Timeless says:

    2nd Report

    All three systems still running. However primary system is locking up while turning my avitar. Cleared cache and tried again. Mainly when making right hand turns while flying. Stationary motion right hand turn. Does not lock up on left hand turns. Screen freezes with arrow key highlighted, then screen goes white and locks.

    This happens on the dual card system, but not on the laptop or single card system as mentioned in #23. Frame rate in the sim is still at 44 or better and time dilation is between 99 and 1. Seems to be an issue with the refresh from the client.

    Mike

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  70. Serenity Semple says:

    Your operating system (Mac, PC, etc.) – PC
    Your network configuration (at work or at home, behind a firewall or not, wireless or not) – Home, Basic Firewall, Not wireless
    The name of your Internet service provider (ISP) – Eastern CT Cable
    The type of router you have – Netgear

  71. Susan Koltai says:

    Windows Server 2003 R2 x64
    NVIDIA graphics card
    3GB RAM
    Ethernet to DSL router (Telekom); Router with full NAT and firewall up.
    No voice enabled. (Who needs it?)
    I run the default viewer, not the release candidate. Yet, I would like to share some of my recent observations:
    – Since about 2-3 offical releases, the SL performance deteriorates for me. A new symptom is sporadic freezing of the client for 3s up to 30s (many other users told me it happens to them, too -> seems “by design”), MTBF around 1-10minutes. The client then uses 100% CPU of one of my 2 cores.
    – The past 2 rolling restarts deteriorated the experience, too. (your work on server side seems to contribute!)
    – CTRL-SHIFT-1 time info shows that image and network time peak up above 10s more often than they used to. My average network frame rate (Germany) is around 5-7fps.
    – I stopped doing anything which requires even the faintest real time (like sparring with bow and arrow) since the past updates. Standing on a spot and moving slowly sometimes works 😉
    – Crashes around 3-5 times in 10 hours (pretty stable)
    – Memory usage increases and I usually restart SL when it is close to 2GB RAM usage.
    – I downloaded the latest viewer sources and inspected how you configure your udp…you run in polling mode (nonblocking). Very special approach. You might want to consider to change to a blocking configuration and introduce some receive thread(s). The single threaded, free running rendering loop approach…might not be it (my private opinion)

  72. Spank Lovell says:

    #49

    Same observation here :

    Horizontal and vertical texture repeats appear linked and reset to 1.000 when 0.700 is reached.

    OS = XP home
    Network = 16,b ADSL nominal speedcheck shows 8912Mbit so bandwidth isnt an issue with the RC.
    Network feeds an ADSL Router – No firewall used.

    How the hell have u managed to screw the code for these controls? I’d have assumed that this was an area of code that would not be affected by the changes you have made (Which I havent tested by the way but will now before I uninstall the RC and go back to the “stable” version)

  73. Spank Lovell says:

    Sorry I forgot to add :

    Graphics Card = 256Mb ATI Radeon xp1300Pro
    Memory = 2Gb

  74. TA History says:

    The transaction history for today cannot find any matched items!? Eventhough there are plenty. Anybody the same issue?

  75. Remus Lykin says:

    OS: XP sp2
    Network: DSL from TDC (a stable 5mbit/1mbit line) on a Siemens router
    Firewall: ZoneAlarm (which has never been an issue before or with any other program)

    I’ve also reported this in the PJIRA (VWR-2355) and got the notice that it was resolved, even if it wasn’t.

    Multiple crashes, sometimes 5-6 in an hour. Or the viewer simply freezes for up to a minute, causing the rest of my system to hang as well. This happens especially if I use the camera, but sometimes it’s enough that I simply turn my avatar around. I’ve not experienced anything like this on other equally graphics- and ressource heavy programs. And it doesn’t matter whether I have anything else running at the same time or not.

  76. Chupacabra says:

    Windows XP pro;1gb mem;AMD 2200Mhz; Radeon 9700 pro; ISP Netcabo (12Mb), Running free, no firewall no anti virus, nothing.
    After install Second_Life_1-18-4-0_ReleaseCandidate_Setup SL become more laggy, some icons in contacts are weird, voice green stripes when someone is talkin vanish now its a grey smoke, in the map i can see for example 6 green dots (6 avatares) but with mouse in the map only tell me the is one avatar, music streaming stop working, only a relog fix it! Crashing hard this release and mor bugs.

  77. Claudine Chantilly says:

    Yes, please fix

    the crashes while turning or using the cam..
    the crashes while teleporting..
    the sudden freezes that result in a 20-60 second hourglass and occasionally a crash..
    the uncontrollable walking into quicksand pavement or flying into never never land.. which eventually results in rubberbanding or a crash..
    the random detachment of attachments during teleports..
    the bug where worn attachements stick to your groin..

    All these have been reported over and over and over for months now.. oh yes.. and i wouldn’t be writing this if region handshakes weren’t broken right now and the system would let me log in and play..

    Please record this as another unsatisfactory abend to my playing session in SL.

    XPSP2
    NVidia 7600GS
    Wired, Firewalled
    Internode (Australia)
    DrayTek 2600 ADSL Modem/Router

  78. Nadine Defiant says:

    I have to second #77’s saying about the issues that been posted over and over and over and oooh well… with 9 crashes in 20 minutes, now here we go:

    XP SP2
    NVidia 7600 gs
    wired, NO extra firewall
    T-Com Germany DSL and AOL as flatrate-provider
    Fritzbox-Router with internal firewall

  79. WoodBee Writer says:

    I’m not crashing (more than usual), but my Groups won’t load. I’m shown as belonging to 0 out of 25. I’ve tried going through the Edit menu with the same result; when I check my Profile they’re all there. As a result I can’t change my Group tag or initiate Group IMs

    iMac G5 (Power PC)
    1.6 Ghz
    512 RAM
    GeForce FX 5200
    64 Mb VRAM
    OSX 10.4.10
    Net Barrier Firewall (Intego)

  80. mimi says:

    yes i crash about every 15-60 minutes.. its crazy

  81. Nadine Defiant says:

    oh and PLEASE fix that “can’t change a single value for a texture while building – it will always change both simultaniously”- thingie!!! It really brings me into trouble keeping some of my deadlines 😦

  82. Judi Newall says:

    PC Vista
    Home hardwired to Netgear router
    AOL UK
    GeForce 7900 GS/PCI/SSE2

    No problems aside from missing inventory which comes and goes despite 3 upgrades and countless cache clearing.

  83. Wroe Alderson says:

    TP is not working this morning. Sorry to use the blog this way, but it seems any customer service organization would give its valued residents accessible ways to report product failures.

  84. Judi Newall says:

    Re 82
    All my 25 groups have vanished!

  85. ac14 Hutson says:

    I love how when you update things you change things that didnt need to be changed just for the hell of it.
    like in the build menu you switched some of the checkboxes around. Now i keep hitting the wrong ones. WHY do you do this was there a reason for it?

  86. ***TEXTURE ISSUE IN NEW VERSION? ***

    Is it me or does this new verison have trouble with textures? When ever I alter the rotation, repeat or offsets of textures, the Flip boxes turn on and off, the rpeats for horizontal and vetrticle keep matching eachother and undoin new values I enter and jumping around. It’s a real pain to texture anything, nigh impossible in fact, to do it properly without many repeated attempts

  87. Jessica Hultcrantz says:

    Not that it matters, but i can add that the current Linux release (1.18.3.5) has never had a working login screen, way to go LL 🙂

  88. Hey there,

    there is a big problem on the WEBsite secondlife….

    The L$ Transaction History is down….

    Please look if more have this problem

    Cris

  89. Salvia Homewood says:

    Here’s a new one – This morning I’m unable to uncheck “see me online” or “see me on map” in my friends list. Or rather, I can uncheck them, but they go right back to checked! Still using 1.18.2, Mac OS X.

  90. Salvia Homewood says:

    Okay, never mind, the friends list thing cleared up. Weird.

  91. I am crashing on start up

    * Your operating system — PC wind XP

    * Your network configuration — at home

    * The name of your Internet service provider (ISP)— comcast

    * The type of router you have Linksys

  92. Fuega Zenovka says:

    Just wanted to say I am running Vista on a lan line at home, 2g of RAM, PC, standard McAffee firewall and am having no problems other than the typical SL issues.

  93. Jessica Hultcrantz says:

    1.18.4.0 RC works fine under Linux on my old 1.6 GHz P4 with 768 Meg ram 🙂
    (As posted in the JIRA)

  94. Angelan Runo says:

    i crashed and now i cant get in..mrrr
    i have vista is thats the problem?

  95. Tegg B says:

    All running good less crashes than last viewer really.

  96. Chaos Mohr says:

    Exept for group land issue: VWR-2809 this release seems more stable for me than previous RC and full release. No Connection problems, no crashes observed since installation yesterday.

    CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (2395 MHz)
    Memory: 4094 MB
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista (Build 6000) – x64
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 8800 GTS/PCI/SSE2 – 7.15.11.6369 Driver
    Cox Cable 15Mbps
    Home Network Lan connection to Netgear WGU624 router via Marvell Yukon PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller

  97. Don Duke says:

    99% CPU usage
    580 Mbyte memory

    machine
    dual core Intel VIIV 3.0
    2 Gb Ram
    broadband 20Mbit connection
    operating on XP
    IP = Casema
    at home behind firewall
    Unex nexIP ISO50p router

  98. Dekka Raymaker says:

    My main computer blew up! So I’m using a real old machine, one I never thought would even connect to SL. Ok, so generally I can get in SL and it’s painfully slow, which I realise is my machines limitations, however, on the whole I can stay in SL for quite some time and without crashes, if I’m careful, don’t move much and have barely any prims on and of course most things in preferences set low, I am actually surprised I’m crashing less than with my state-of-the-art G5 Mac with 4GB ram. So I’m just posting my computer stats as an example:

    London UK

    No firewall, at home, DSL connection, no wireless. TalkTalk.net ISP broadband provider.

    Machine Name: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)
    Machine Model: PowerMac3,1
    CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.8)
    Number Of CPUs: 1
    CPU Speed: 400 MHz
    L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB
    Memory: 320 MB
    Bus Speed: 100 MHz

    ATY,Rage128Pro:

    Chipset Model: ATY,Rage128Pro
    Type: Display
    Bus: AGP
    Slot: SLOT-A
    VRAM (Total): 16 MB
    Vendor: ATI (0x1002)

  99. carissa fitzpatrick says:

    Windows xp
    home network, wireless
    provider – comcast, firewalled
    netgear wireless cable modem gateway

    Every time I try to teleport I freeze & crash, or I walk and keep walking….

  100. Skipper Burns says:

    XP PRO SP2, Laptop 1.66 MHZ, Cable modem, LinkSys Router, Firewall.
    Random crashes after programme freeze, most frequently when TPing- crossing SIMs.
    Hope you get it soted out.

  101. Votslav Hax says:

    i get disconnected due to ‘mangled stream/ any ideas out there?

  102. taff nouvelle says:

    Athlon 64 X2 5200+
    MSI MS7250
    2 gig DDRII
    GeForce 7600GT 512 meg DDRII
    XP pro full updates
    Netgear Router,
    running music server from another computer.
    SL and Photoshop on two screens on thios one, no crashes, no lag, occasional hangs for up to a minute
    been logged on for over 14 hours now.
    looks good so far.

  103. Schizm Neutra says:

    Windows xp
    home network, wireless
    provider – Time Warner, firewalled
    Webstar wireless cable modem gateway

    Still not sure what a ‘Client Frame Rate’ is…but the ‘new’ lag meter is in RED and it says:

    ‘Below 10-Possible cause: Too many complex objects in scene’.

    The other lights are green.

    My question or concern is WHAT is tooo complex? WHY would they be tooo complex? Too many prims? If so is the system not set up to allow for complex? Will I have to rid myself of prims I paid good money for, to use?

    This seems to me, to be ANOTHER way to put the ‘blame’ for lag on the user, NOT the servers, or whatever else supports the prim use.

    The other two lights are green, only the one I would be responsible for per use of prims is red…

    I paid good money for the ‘complex’ prims, to build my home, my business, my ambience FOR the business–NOW I have to be told that I’m RESPONSIBLE for the ‘red’ light and the use of ‘complex’ Prims…

    OK, then GIVE me back the ESTIMATED L$250,000 or so I’ve spent in 3 years here–for land, buildings (I have 260 prefabs), furniture, clothing, hair, gifts, support of meetings, and various other items purchased here–PLUS the tier fees and membership fees I’ve paid and I will ELIMINATE said ‘Complex items’ and live on bare land, ok? In fact, I will eliminate land altogether and I won’t even have to pay tier fees, mmmm kkkk?

    I can be a gypsy like so many others here in SL…I’m beginning to think THEY have the right idea. Why pay for something I CAN’T enjoy, or I CAN be blamed for enjoying…

    The whole issue goes back to lag…YOU must take SOME responsibility for the problem, it isn’t ALL the member who is doing this through use of ‘Complex’ prims.

    In my estimation the ‘Lag’ meter is useless as long as it BLAMES members for the ‘Complex prim’ usage.

  104. Troy says:

    OK let me make this stright and simple. My Computer Surpasses the damn system req pages. but a factor of 10x why is the cilent light on the meter red. maybe poorly programed. put in havok4 already and dont make a fool of your selfs!

  105. Troy says:

    P.S. Im Spam, Spyware, Virus Clean, I got 2Gbs Ram, 3Ghz CPU, 512Mb Video Card. Windows Vista (Same Results on XP. So dont say its the OS. Cuz it isnt.)

  106. Sling Trebuchet says:

    Bandwidth.
    What the hell. Raise tier and throw the money at bandwidth.
    Lag and sim-crossing is going to kill SL. A slow death.

  107. element smirnov says:

    maybe test viewers shouldn’t be put up on the blog, since it seems people have a problem with the meaning of “test”.
    also, use a seperate folder for test viewers cache.

  108. Vivienne says:

    Had some problems with editing texture rotations and repeats. The tab did not work properly. But all in all it seems to render a bit faster and seems to be a bit more respondable than the official client- and the lag assistant is really a progress. Not more or less crashes than with the official client, too.

  109. Vivienne says:

    Ah, forgot my machine..

    G5, 2x 2 Ghz
    MacOs 13.9
    ATI Radeon 9800
    ADSL

    And by the way, is a “complex object” anything including more than estimated 300 Prims? Cause the client starts lagging extremely and the network moderately as soon as more than 300 prims are around. Are scripts of importance? Would be interesting to know at which point the graphic board passes operations to the processor and why. 256 MB graphic RAM here. But all of this is not etter or worse i the official client, so…business as usual.

  110. Almostanangel sinatra says:

    WAY to many crashes!!! Please help!!
    windows vista 500gb sata 2
    gateway 2ghz intel core duo
    nvdia gforce7950 gt oc
    linksys

  111. Amanda Ascot says:

    ” This update contains the latest fixes and features. We always recommend upgrading to the latest version, but now the choice is yours. Remember, these updates are connected to the Main Live Grid. See you inworld!”

    I get bumped during a TP and on re-start I see this displayed in the upper right corner of the screen. On log-in I get a message saying the upgrade is mandatory.

    Excuse me? Get your act together, guys. With the problems I’ve been reading about I will *not* upgrade this weekend. I’ll try to figure out a work around that will let me use the current RC viewer, which is working just fine for me, thank you. If I can’t I’ll wait until you get the bugs worked out of this one.

    *Mumbles something about the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing as she walks off*

  112. Amanda Ascot says:

    Hmmm … perhaps I was a bit hasty. After three more attempts, and a re-install of the current client and a re-install of the Nicholaz patch I got in. You have to love this technology … I suppose …

  113. Ann Otoole says:

    SL is pretty messed up right now. but there is no support on the weekends so nobody to tell. the asset system is really really messed up. i wish LL would hire a real 24*7 staff and manage this wonderful thing in a professional and responsible manner.

    linking prims? what a joke. just keeps cycling between linked and unlinked. almost as though there were two mirrored databases fighting for control of asset transactions. try hiring a real data architect. yea you’ll have to pay big bucks. you get what you pay for. college kiddies are not data architects.

  114. Lincoln Lightfoot says:

    And how in the h*** are you supposed to tell the difference between this release crash and a crash that happened routinely in prior versions? No doubt, the most UNSTABLE, software I have seen & I am in the business and have used BETA’s many times. Your public version does not approach a beta.

    It’s too bad, you almost had a good thing going. I am not a Dba or system architect, but I know many. This type of performance would be intolerable in the real world.

    Hard cabled to IS (ATT); Intel DuoCore on XP Professional.

    Guys and Ladies you really need to try and get it right.

  115. ac14 Hutson says:

    complex prims dosent only mean on land. avatars can have 250 prims PER ATTACHMENT POINT. if you get 5 pepole with 200 prim furs or 300 prim armor your in for some lag no matter what computer you have. lower your settings and dont scream “it looks like crap” i have a x800GTO paired with a x2 6000+ to keep myself from lagging i put the settings just high enough to keep things from gettnig sharp edges.
    btw what do you mean by client lights… i see no lights or bars except the bandwith ones

  116. Alexia Hyova says:

    Intel Core2Duo, GForce7600 XP-PRO
    Home DSL, Eminent router.

    Crashing during startup, during login and when online.
    Crashing while camerapanning isn’t over either, contrary to what the releasenotes say. A little better than the last version, but not much.

  117. MorrowCoTeacher Marjeta says:

    I had one crash and all seemed well after logging back in and I was doing pretty good until I tried to fly and then ride in the hot balloon tour.. after I crashed I was no longer in the balloon or even in the same place.. I think it put me in the land where the balloon had been passing over… now every time I log in I crash right away.. the last time it told me it couldn’t connect.. so I came here..
    I have MSN the fastest speed DSL.. and using a laptop with winxp which is pretty full so I haven’t much space left… (only 6 gigs)… I think that kinda slows me down on this end…

  118. Celina Lathrop says:

    Guys? I open groups in “Comunicate”…and it says I have 0 groups. Never mind the fact that I belong to 20 groups, and they show on profile, not to mention the tag over my head. 0 groups. I need to change tags to work, and I can´t. Yaaaaay… HELLOOOO? 😛

  119. Destiny Zamani says:

    Windows Vista PC
    Verizon DSL
    at home standard firewall

    I crash after 2-3 minutes of logging in…I am also a newbie..very discouraging. =(

  120. Tegg B says:

    Celina Lathrop Says: Guys? I open groups in “Comunicate”…and it says I have 0 groups. Never mind the fact that I belong to 20 groups, and they show on profile, not to mention the tag over my head. 0 groups. I need to change tags to work, and I can´t. Yaaaaay… HELLOOOO?

    I had that too but if I clicked my tag over my head I could select groups and tags fine from there, it was ok again an hour later

  121. Rascal Ratelle says:

    Unable to startup 1.18.4 due to start up crash issue. this issue has rendered 1.18.4 Release Candidate unusable. Switching to main viewer.

  122. CodeZero Bulloch says:

    I have a

    Vista Wireless
    Firewalls Up
    TimeWarner Cable
    Cable Modem (highspeed, allgedly)

    I can crash several times a day… It does get a bit irratating to have to send crash reports constanly and I know what you have to do it but it wouldjust be easier to move fluidly.

    You guys do what you need to but I gotta tell you I seem to crash at the worst times lol.

    I’m also getting tired of grievers on here but thats the breaks with these things. Thank you for looking into the problems and looking for a solution 😉

  123. Wanja Lubitsch says:

    I wonder about the LAG-Network-Meter.
    What is metered there? I get a ping time to the server (correct me if I’m wrong: userserver.agni.lindenlab.com) of 192 ms from the command line.
    The viewer tells me, the ping would be 250 to 600 ms, why?

    Yes, I also think this lag meter is just for telling me it all is my fault.

  124. Jami Price says:

    Ok here

  125. criss J says:

    aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh im about sick of thes crashes!!! i have wireles PC connection using windows vista. probalby the culprit right there cuz vista sucks.. we have cable internet

  126. Wroe Alderson says:

    Voice is not working tonite!!!

  127. Linux Raymaker says:

    Linux O.S.
    CAT5 LAN connection to Router.
    Demon internet (ISP) 8096 Kbps Downstream, 448 Kbps Upstream.
    BT Voyager 220V Router all ports are stealth, (apart from the ones I have open for server stuff).
    Second Life 1.18.4(0) runs fine.

  128. Equino Faulkland says:

    Windows XP
    Nvidia Geforce Go 7900’s in SLI on my notebook
    2 gigs ram
    internet OC3 line provided by the University. (cisco routers.)

    I get lots of just crash to desktops, and Bluescreens casued by the client that would lock up windows and force a restart.

  129. Kettu Keiko says:

    although i have not crashed with this RC, i did come upon a new bug.

    It will not let me use different Horizontal and Vertical Repeats per Face values on texturing in Edit mode. I change one, it keeps changing the other to match.

    WinXP SP2 – 3GB dual channel PC3200 RAM
    AMD Athlon64 4000+
    Sapphire X1950 ATI Radeon AGP8X
    Metrocast 6144 Kpbs downstream

  130. Kettu Keiko says:

    While you are out fixing the texture RpF issue, can you seperate the Repeats per Meter into Horizontal and Vertical as well? That would make texturing easier across different-sized prims (like floors and ceilings for example) Trying to calculate that what the RpF value for say, 1.66 Horizontal RpF AND 2.25 Vertical RpF on a 10×10 meter prim onto a piece that’s say 6.825×8.125 is a pain.. but currently RpM is stuck at a 1:1 “aspect ratio” if you will..

    please please pretty please?? 😛

  131. Sandar Gausman says:

    Operarting system XP 64 bit
    PC
    8GB (yes, I know, it only sees 6)
    home system Netgear firewall
    Charter Cable

    I am glad I missed out on this release candidate. The Vista machine is a sea of gray but 64 bi XP has always behaved itself. I will skip this RC and wait for the next one, thank you very much!

  132. Gracie Foden says:

    Answers to your inquiries re correcting crashes:
    1.– PC (Hewlett Packard)
    2.– Windows XP
    3.– Non-wireless
    4.– at home
    5.– Comcast Cable
    6.– Scientific Atlanta from Comcast Cable–the router box
    Thank you for your great job in everything!

  133. getit says:

    not enough running this…

    PC XP Home SP2
    Pentium4 2.7GHz
    1GB Mems
    ADSL 24Mbps wired connecting
    C-Media USB Headphone Set (cannot enable voice chat feature)

  134. MarmelaGramela Doesburg says:

    works fine for me (vista), just the rezzin seems a tad slow…
    now- the reason i look at this is the new search…i’m searching for it and don’t find it…any idea anyone?

  135. commandererperson says:

    PC
    Vista
    Home, Firewall,Wireless
    Time Warner

  136. Roj Snook says:

    I’ve got a Mac Pro 2ghz core, 3gb ram and a Mac Book Pro running 2ghz with 3gb ram and both machines die on launching the release candidate software. Both machines are also on Mac OSX 10.4.10 and can open the normal client fine. Macbook pro keeps crashing all the same since several releases ago and I’d love this to be fixed sometime soon as its a pain.

  137. Lana Madonna says:

    operating system PC running XP
    Home use, normal Windows firewall, DSL Broadband (not wireless), dualcore processor 1.6 ghz, 1 gig ram,
    Internet service provider (ISP) telecom xtra New Zealand
    4 port router running 3 comps, only 2 used for SL

    Earlier today, running as usual, now this evening (NZ time), Im freezing whenever I have to do anything and have to reboot, only to freeze again a few seconds later. Not good enough, if its not broke why try and fix it???

  138. WoodBee Writer says:

    re my answer at 79

    The groups problem appeared to be a temporary glitch, but I now crash on attempting to log in.

    iMac G5 (Power PC)
    1.6 Ghz
    512 RAM
    GeForce FX 5200
    64 Mb VRAM
    OSX 10.4.10
    Wired
    DSL Router
    Net Barrier Firewall (Intego)

  139. richard says:

    the is second new saying “if it’s broken we won’t fix it, and if it’s working we will break it !”

  140. richard says:

    ok let try this again second life new saying is “if it’s broken we won’t fix it, and if it’s working we will break it !”

  141. NiteZelmanov says:

    Of the myriad of problems listed above the only one I’m experiencing is the texture “repeats per face” bug where values you enter get erased.

    What happened to “Disable Camera Constraints”? Torley recently taught the world about this feature in a “Tip of the week”, and now you’ve removed it. Right Hand/Left Hand problem, LL?

  142. Rascal Ratelle says:

    “Disable Camera Constraints” feature has not been removed. Perhaps this is the symptom of another issue?
    sounds to me like that particular feature failed to load in your client. (missing content/data?)

    Try Clearing your Cache and reloading your client, that should clear that up.

  143. Wanja Lubitsch says:

    “Disable Camera Constraints” is still in the “Client” Menu, maybe you have this menu disabled? See Torley’s tip you mentioned on how to get it back.

    I have the texture problem too, but the crashes are way more important.

    Anybody else tested the ping times (see above) not from within the viewer?

  144. Veronica Quackenbush says:

    Dell laptop, Windows XP
    network home, McAfee firewall, cable
    Time Warner
    no idea what you mean by router? modem is Scientific Atlanta WebStar

    notable observation:

    1. when running the official SL RC, almost complete lack of functionality and high risk of asset damage, forcing a crash to prevent further destruction is usually the best option

    2. when running with the Nicholaz patch, “normal” (for SL) behavior, that is, crashes no more than twice a day, tp and money work 80% of the time, 5-minute freezelag lockups at 0.2 fps about 3 times per hour. The only notable deterioration relative to the last release seems to be significantly slower loading of textures, resulting in walking around in a universe of grey slabs and ditto avatars much of the time.

    Maybe Linden Labs should think of hiring Nicholaz Beresford 🙂

    Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with Nicholaz in any way (except I send him crash reports every so often), I just use his stuff because it’s good 🙂

  145. Rex Cronon says:

    Another bug with the new RC viewer, is that when I login in, the big red teleport beacon doesn’t disappear. I have to go to map and click on clear to make it disappear.

  146. Momma K. says:

    Ahhhh…once again, BUY MAC’s people! Holy Christ ya’ll are having problems and me, I’m just toolin’ along. Mwuahahahahhaaaaa….

  147. Wendy Forager says:

    I still use 1.8.2 and it runs fine but since last week SL has gone on its worsed. Yesterday I had the most worse day with 4 crashes and constantly lag meter in red, fluctuating bandwith meter and very slow rezzing of surroundings and with changing clothing from inventory. Made no difference, almost every sim I had the same problem. Guys concentrate on this problems please before putting in new gadgets and working on voice. Almost a year in SL and the quality has gone worse since every update and certainly since the 1.8 introduction.

  148. Alaine Carnell says:

    ok i got a new pc spent a lot of money for it… It has windows vista hmmmm…. i didn’t know sl wouldnt work with Vista …so can anyone help me…. when will sl work with vista is there a way to do it now E-mail me PLEASE HELP…AlaineCarnell2007@yahoo.com Thank you

  149. Hank Rucker says:

    I had no problems running this new RC… In fact, I was rather oblivious, simply enjoying the fixes and new bits.

    Then I installed the Havok beta, tried it out for a half-hour or so, then tried to log back onto the main grid with this new RC. And could not do so properly.

    I found myself at 10,10,10 in my home Sim, which for some reason then crashed. I tried to log back in after the region was back up, but still no joy.

    As I had not had any problem till I installed the Havok beta, I un-installed it. After it was out of the system, I tried to log in, and was able to do so normally.

    I suppose I’d be willing to try a reinstall of the Havok beta to see if the problem re-occurred, but I’m not hot to do so…

    Perhaps this might be causing some of these issues?

  150. Magix says:

    System MAC OS x
    Network at Home, non wireless with firewall
    Provider green.ch
    Router Zyxel P623-ME

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