Got a great Second Life tool to promote?

We are currently accepting your submissions for a new section of our website called ‘Resident Resources’. These are Resident-created tools or services that extend the capabilities of Second Life and improve the Resident experience. Examples of this might include everything from identity and discovery tools to animation editors and photo sharing sites, to social networking services designed specifically for Second Life users.

Our goal in this is to aggregate all the Second Life-related tools and resources currently available into one easy-to-browse location for both new Residents and existing users. In the future, as the listings grow, we will populate more content areas of secondlife.com with your work. What we ask for in return is a nominal non-refundable listing fee (L$250) per category submission. We also require that your submission is directly relevant to Second Life.

Otherwise, we look forward to working with you as a partner in making secondlife.com as useful as possible. We are confident these Resources will help enrich, expand, and strengthen our community.

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115 Responses to Got a great Second Life tool to promote?

  1. Dirk Felix says:

    Maybe some of these concepts could be considered 😉

    http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Transparency_(market)

  2. Sabbat Lykin says:

    I have a great tool in my pants to promote

  3. Ann Otoole says:

    Knowing and agreeing to this from the TOS:
    —————–
    CONDUCT BY USERS OF SECOND LIFE
    Section 4.1
    (iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden Lab at its sole discretion that …, invasive of another’s privacy, …; (v) …surreptitiously intercept or expropriate any system, data or personal information;
    —————–

    I am really surprised to see this:

    “Examples of this might include everything from identity and discovery tools”
    —————–

    Request careful clarification of what is meant by “identity and discovery tools” please.
    —————–

    Note that I fully support such contests as they inspire creativity and enhance the Secondlife experience.

  4. WarKirby Magojiro says:

    Are weapons qualified to be submitted ?

  5. Pol McLaglen says:

    What about recommending programs and stuff that you don’t actually own but are damn useful for second life? As a Builder I often back up all my targa textures to hard drive, and targas cannot be viewed as thumbnails under windows so I use a very handy third party image browser called XnView for browsing through them all. I don’t own the program so I am hardly gonna pay L$250 for someone else’s program to be listed.

    Pol McLaglen.

  6. kerunix flan says:

    @2 social networking stuff.

  7. charter member says:

    Yes, can you make more clear as to what you’re accepting and what you’re not accepting?

    How about 3rd party tools which work inside secondlife?

  8. charter member says:

    Also, what about the “Developer Tools” section? Is that going away? Can we still submit to that section?

  9. Revolution Perenti says:

    does this include in world tools, like my .::prototype::. sim / home rezzing system and physics and weather system, also can be known as enviroment in a box ^_^

    revo 🙂

  10. Johan Durant says:

    @6: I’m guessing they don’t really have hard guidelines in mind, so just submit anything you have that you think ought to go on such a list, and they’ll decide if it really makes sense to include. So my answer to your specific question is, try submitting it and see.

  11. Cliff Dieffenbach says:

    @2 – An example would be something like slprofiles.com that enhances your profile by providing a web-tab page.

  12. Kahni Poitier says:

    paint.net fore the image editing category!

    It’s free and handles TGA files just fine.

  13. Jesse Linden says:

    Charter: I’m mainly looking for tools and services developed for Second Life users by Second Life users. I suppose we could consider things like Photoshop, which is undoubtedly a great tool for Second Life users, but that’s not really what the intent is here…

  14. Jesse Linden says:

    Edited the post to say ‘Resident-created’ rather than ‘third-party’ tools. Hopefully, that will help clarify.

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  16. Jason says:

    Hopefully, someone will come up with a WONDERFUL program to create sculpt maps. Wings isn’t doing it for me and Maya is too expensive.

  17. Link Katsu says:

    So.. by helping residents out, we get charged 250L? Why?

  18. Mel says:

    Like tutorials and things?

  19. So hmm you mean things like Rokuro for sculpties or Qavimator for doing animations? Both were created by residents, for residents, to use exclusively inside SL…

    I suppose that things like plugins and exporters would classify as “tools”? There are a lot of those for exporting sculpties from the major
    3D modelling tools
    (see the comments section on that article for more links).

    There is also a lot of plugins and language modules for LSL for several popular programmer’s editors and even some IDEs. I always wondered who added the LSL plugin on Smultron for the Mac (since its version 2.2.6).

  20. Vanessa Sakai says:

    What do you mean by idenity and discovery tools?

  21. Vanessa Sakai says:

    To idenify and discover what?

  22. Kenn Nilsson says:

    I’m confused a bit on the ambiguity here. Would tools to manage resources within Second Life through the web qualify? Or is it only content-creation tools?

    Basically…if I have a website from which paying customers can manage in-world resources, vendors, etc., does that count? Or is this a listing for things like .bmp importers for Wings-3D? Are we talking about a classified listing or a resource listing?

  23. amun koba says:

    @2, @14, @15, maybe the identity/discovery tools referred to are in-world (ie LSL scripted) devices such as intruder alert/welcome-bot avatar identifiers.

    I believe what is mentioned in the TOS is legalistically-generalized references to RL activities geared towards finding out real-life identities, reverse-engineering how private or protected data is stored or transferred to/from the servers, etc. It looks like “surreptitiously intercept” is an important part of the term,
    implying it’s about sneakily spying on someone else’s data transfers.

  24. Anonymous says:

    I work with trouble teens and it’s often all about bad parenting: not teaching universal values, not teaching responsabilities, not teaching respect, not teaching common-sens and I could keep on going.
    Some kids are really messed up now because parents didn’t take their responsibilities. I also noticed that often those kind of parents love to play the “blame-game” and are still immature even if they are adults. I even saw teen parents who are more mature than those kind of bad parents…

  25. Point the residents to the growing financial industry within SL, a great way to support scipters and protaganists of the development of the in game world and to share in the profits that are generated. A risk, but growing market able to be tapped by savvy investors.

    http://www.allenvestfinancial.cm
    HQ Region: Allenvest
    Secondary Major Branch: Friedman
    Other branches of interest: Region: Tamaqua

    We’re looking for more creators.. with more great ideas.

  26. anonymouse1 says:

    What the Lindens don’t comprehend and haven’t really taken in yet 2, 14 and 15, is that people on SL value their privacy.. they don’t want their real lives discovered. You see, they (Linden Lab) think that we want SL (oh…. I’m sorry Jesse “THE PLATFORM”… you’ve stopped calling it Second Life internally, haven’t you?) to be a duplicate of RL so it’s just more RL and not Second Life at all.

    This is why they’ve spent a half a year slamming voice into the viewer without regard for anyones opinions or the fact that the great majority of the populace of SL don’t want it. They did it for two reasons:

    1) to compete with There.com, even though There.com is basically no comparison… and…
    2) to appeal to businesses

    To hell with what the residents wanted, we’re the least of their concerns.

    This is also why they have gone completely ape over the identity issue lately… because of the phantom threat of pedophiles in SL. They did this for a couple reasons too:

    1) to put on a show of preventing it (yes…. show, not the real thing) and
    2) to, again, appease business because, after all, how can a virtual world be taken seriously if such things are allowed to occur.

    My feeling is that Linden Lab has started regretting the “Your life your imagination” motto. Now that the big companies have started to move in, those of us who want our privacy or those who don’t play exactly what we are in real life are seen as an “embarassment” since LL is now trying to market SL as a serious application for businesses to use for meetings.

    Why do you think Philip is being replaced? If you look at the history of what Philip has said in the past regarding privacy, he’s been all for being sensitive to the privacy and anonymity of everyone. This is why he said that “SL will not have voice until a dragon can sound like a dragon.” Now enter Mitch Kapor. Mitch is the one who has been saying “we need to make SL and RL so that they are no longer separate places.” From this point on, LL has been systematically deconstructing the entire idea of anonymity in SL. Philip is a martyr for those of us who valued privacy… his replacement should be greatly feared.

    I mean, come on… does it help your customers take you seriously if there’s a Gorean slave running around saying “This girl..” this and “this girl” that?? Can IBM really take LL seriously, if it lets that continue?

    Years from now, after LL is bankrupt and the corporate vultures have picked the last of the meat from it’s bones with respect to IP and property and money, I’m planning on writing a book: “The Death of Second Life. Why Linden Lab failed: A case study in not listening to your customers.”

    Anony Mouse

  27. anonymouse1 says:

    Just one thing…. It should be noted that the portion of my previous post regarding Goreans is sarcastic and is meant as an extreme example of what LL is thinking… I am all for anyone doing anything they like in SL so long as it doesn’t hurt anyone.

  28. Yami Katayama says:

    @ Pol (#4) – try using Irfanview (along with the extension addons by BAxBEx Software) – both are FREE downloads on the internet, will handle TGA files, as well as just about every other graphics file you can come up with – really powerful and really free.

  29. JayR Cela says:

    #17 & 18 / I agree with you 100% / oh and by the way. Who said anything about Phillip being replaced ??

    JayR Cela

  30. Chaz Longstaff says:

    anonymouse1, forget to take your meds????

  31. Duckling Kwak says:

    Hi, Jesse! Given some of the categories already included and the strong presence of artists in SL, I’m surprised that “Arts & Entertainment” didn’t make it to the list. Perhaps this was an oversight? Thanks!

  32. SLDuality says:

    anonymouse1 has hit the nail on the head. SL ultimately will have a real world aspect where people and corporations represent themselves, and where identity will be a necessary aspect of transactions, interactions and relationships. This should be done on a “commercial grid” that is separate from the present SL world. Commercial activity just does not fit with the original vision of the SL fantasy world where people wish to play in character and purposely not represent anything to do with reality. The question will be, can the commercial version of SL be successful enough to subsidize the playground SL?

  33. AndroGyne Qinan says:

    This girl is trying to use Daz studio (http://www.daz3d.com/) (free tool) for creating and trying clothing. With Daz studio she can try the cloth on her local pc before uploading it to SL.

  34. Warda Kawabata says:

    This girl thinks that many of these fine resident created tools can be found at http://www.google.com

  35. Juliet Ceres says:

    You’re letting people PAY for that? Why should residents pay for helping you improve your product?
    But meh… sounds like another sink of my money to advertise for my own goods. Thank you…

  36. Aromadon Enoch says:

    Personally, I’d like to present the entire Customer Support staff at Linden Labs…. there’s a great bunch of tools if ever I’ve seen any….

  37. SirWilliam Biedermann says:

    Hello,

    i am quite dissapointed by Linden labs.
    I did request to be listed in resident resources, and i got email, i was denied, with no reason, with no possibility to contact anyone, and with no money back. Lol where we are?? So where or who i should contact if i want to contact someone who can help me? I believe this post will be deleted cuz LL dont like critic…but there is no other possibility how to contact them

  38. MrLunk voom says:

    I’m working on a Cannabis smokers community in SL
    http://www.cannacabanna.nl

    it’s gonna be done sometime this week 😉

    grtz,
    MrLunk voom

  39. Chrysala says:

    Wow the blog complaints have gotten quite witty and pointed! Rokuro, AVpaint and QAVmator would be my picks. @#21: the meds are evil. do not take the pill, it will make you sleeeepppp…..
    Fnord.

  40. Rascal Ratelle says:

    Due to the lack of proper support offerd to basic accounts, I will have to submit a report here.
    please do NOT tell me to go to issues tracker (jira) there is a serious server issues currently not yet known to LIndens.

    I keep getting these error messages when navigating Jira.
    it has gotten worse in the last two hours. now I’m getting these error messages every time I click a link, vote, navigate on Jira. jira is being rendered unusable because of this. Also NON of the issues lists are loading or showing. home page info noot loading, Jira public content is not acssesable due to these server issues. The erros are apache tomcat reports, Here a sample of the error messages that keep popping up constantly,

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  41. Tony says:

    It might help if you’d change your website policy so that commercial sites could display your logos. Some commercial sites have great resident tools but you distance yourself from them by not allowing them to display logos even when they state they are unauthroised.

  42. Tony says:

    Oh and make it so as we can edit posts here 😉 I should add some commerical sites have great free resident tools.

  43. Rascal Ratelle says:

    This is rediculis, Jira issue tracker offers a list of admins to contact but nOT the MEAN to contact them
    Why call it “Contact Admins when the means are NOT offerd?
    This lack of support is frustrating to deal with. Basic accounts are just as important.

  44. To clarify here… when we talk about services, are we discussing items such as person on person services (not sexual i’m talking more about custom building services, DJing services, event hosting services, etc?) or organizational run services?

  45. Rascal Ratelle says:

    Please, Bring back live help. and provide the use of tickets for basic account holders.

  46. Tijn Erde says:

    @18: Like MicroSoft, the customers (those bringing in the big money) are the corporations, not the private users. Unlike MicroSoft, without private users, Second Life has nothing to offer to corporations.

    As for the topic at hand: What use is it for me, as a developer of a few SL-specific tools, to have them published by LL?

  47. jade carnot says:

    IMPORTANT QUESTION! are the over 6 million noreturn in 60 days accounts people who were offended by SL content OR people who couldn’t find their particular kink represented hehe?

  48. Felix Duesenburg says:

    Would everything published there have to be free or public domain? I’d sure like to charge for something that helps increase productivity.

  49. Stoltz Sinatra says:

    Jeez – Send your stuff in!

    Talk about overinterpret the initial blog and whine – Identity tools could be AVATAR radars in my book…Doesnt interfere with privacy.

    Send in your stuff instead of nagging in blogs and then see if the Lindens accept them – How hard can it be?

  50. Abraham Attenborough says:

    second life gone opensource, isnt it? this market is full of proggies for nothing. per example blender3d (proffessional 3d editing tool) or gimp (proffessional image editing) i am sure there are other tools for communication etc.

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  52. Charlotte Wirtanen says:

    I own, manage and develop a networked adult service for SecondLife with a web-front end for the purpose of matching folks up with others of similar interests.

    Are adult and mature tools not allowed for submission?

  53. Elle Pollack says:

    Care to explain the purpose of the $L fee for listing? Is it an arbitrary money sink or is it perhaps a form of spam controll to disuade people from flodding the list with things?

  54. SirWilliam Biedermann says:

    simple question, why my comment wasnt answered, and even posted here?

  55. Alia.Heberle says:

    I dont see why we should bring in all the usefull stuff and then pay for it. I know for me i try to help other residents as much as i can without charging them anything, i like to help, i would say it is the mean reason why i am still on sl.
    I see all the announcements about ageverify and privacy talks. Even comment about basic memberships, like they dont pay, they dont add anything, they are campers:)
    Well yes!! i camp, and while doing that i help a lot of others with their struggles in sllife:) The same time i buy dollars for my euro`s, a lot of them as i may add:)

    Well, lol, as long as i have room to write here, mostly the forum subject is already full when i see them:)
    Sencond life becomes slowly a empty hull, really interested players (like myself) take distance from the game, real SL is gone already, the place is plastered with warning signs, this isnt allowed, that is forbidden. Where will it end?

    Love Alia.

  56. Broccoli Curry says:

    Elle, it’s less than a dollar per category, hardly an earth-shattering amount of money.

    My guess is that it is a spam-deterrent; after all there are so many third party sites out there, many of them dead, and it’s one way of making people think “is it really worth it?”.

    Broccoli

  57. Inigo Chamerberlin says:

    ‘I suppose we could consider things like Photoshop’

    Oh what? That’s really generous of you Jesse…

    (Inigo shakes his head in disbelief)

  58. anonymouse1 says:

    @21, Chaz… “Forget to take your meds?”

    No, dear. I’m what’s known as a realist. I like my privacy. I like to remain anonymous and it really bothers me when we’re forced to reveal ourselves against our will.

    Maybe you should spit out the happy pill you’ve been taking and try to look at reality from more than just your point of view.

  59. TheUNknown says:

    I agree with you anonymouse1. lol

  60. nina says:

    how about bots?
    can we promote a landbot?

  61. Hadley Yoshikawa says:

    anonymouse1 Says:
    July 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 AM PDT

    @21, Chaz… “Forget to take your meds?”

    No, dear. I’m what’s known as a realist. I like my privacy. I like to remain anonymous and it really bothers me when we’re forced to reveal ourselves against our will.
    —–
    Yes sweetheart. The av radars will eat your soul.

  62. Amanda Ascot says:

    No complaining this time, Jesse. I actually think this is a very good idea, as long as it doesn’t become as unwieldy as trying to find things in-world using Search. I do have a few suggestions, though.

    1) Keep open to the addition of new categories. You haven’t covered all the possible bases, and you need a way for people to suggest additional categories.

    2) When you actually go to one of those sections you’re presented with the subject “Resident Resources”, regardless of what the category is. Shouldn’t you see something like “Resident Resources: Animation” or “Resident Resources: Communication Tools”, instead — just to verify that you’re in the right place?

    3) I don’t how/if you plan on sorting things, although if you do this, alphabetical sort should not include non-alphanumeric characters. Just try to find something in-world using Search and you’ll see how people use non-alphanumeric characters to get their entries to show first — and just how annoying that is.

  63. UncleB Kidd says:

    I submitted a long entry about our Second Life Transaction Tracker software as a submission, but I guess the Linden censors had some issue with it.

    Maybe they don’t want you to track your transactions older than 30 days, so that IRS will be able to successfully go after anyone who makes lots of dough on Second Life.

    UncleB

  64. CalebBalius Kidd says:

    I would like to submit SLTT, the Second Life Transaction Tracker to store all your downloaded historical transactions, add them up, and PRINT them out !

    Caleb

  65. UncleB Kidd says:

    Dear Lindens,

    Would a “full regression test” that details all the steps to validate that a new viewer doesn’t “break anything” qualify as a submission?

    My online friends aren’t all showing up (again) – The developers page of the website shows them online, but the viewer only shows two (of eleven who were actually online)

    Lemme know…

    Thanks !

    UncleB Kidd

  66. I agree with Amanda… should be a way to suggest additional categories. Also, randomly sorting the listings on each pageview would give all entries a fair chance at being noticed.

  67. BaliusCaleb Ashby says:

    Hmmm…..

    or otherwise busts the rules will be removed without comment?

    Where are these “rules” listed?

    B

  68. Nadir Koba says:

    I am very puzzled as to what, exactly, we can and can’t submit. Without further clarification – or a means to *request* clarification before submission – I would not pay L$250 up front (a sizeable amount of money to me) knowing that it would be non-refundable even if my product fell outside the guidelines for submission.

    For instance, what about organisational HUDs that let you choose textures, animations, gestures – are these items an example of what you might accept?

  69. Laetizia says:

    #37, YAY, beer’s on me. Some people seem to think the Lindens are Illuminati or operate black choppers. Submit your stuff, it will be a good resource. It’s hard sometimes to find even the simplest things in/for SL.

  70. ari blackthorne says:

    @ anonymouse1 who said: “I mean, come on… does it help your customers take you seriously if there’s a Gorean slave running around saying “This girl..” this and “this girl” that?? Can IBM really take LL seriously, if it lets that continue?”

    this girl agrees completely with you, mistress and this girl will do all she can to take your words to heart and obey as it pleases you and wants mercy if you aren’t a mistress but a master instead. LOL

    Love ya, hun 😉

    Okay – on topic: so, sounds like a great idea – a repository for turorials and cool resources that can be referenced off-line – like tutorials of in-world tools, aftermarket tools, SL-specific desktop tools – it’s a great idea!

    So… when and where?

  71. Benja says:

    I get the impression that the Friends/Groups facilities in SL may be superceded by ‘social networking’ websites and perhaps tools such as Squawk (that links SL chat to Twitter) could be listed.

  72. mushroom balut says:

    How are they going to determine the order of the listings in each subcategory? Chronological? Alphabetically? Will a search function be provide. It would seem unfair for anyone to provide a listing, only to see placed at the bottom of the category.

    Why not order the listings randomly by default?

  73. Dave says:

    “I’m planning on writing a book: “The Death of Second Life. Why Linden Lab failed: A case study in not listening to your customers.”

    Anony Mouse”

    I think LL are listening. But what can they do when they’ve got hundreds of people screaming different things at them.

    Perhaps your hypothetical book should have been titled, ““The Death of Second Life. Why Linden Lab failed: A case study in not listening to your ME!!!”

  74. U M says:

    Do we need more parts? Maybe fix the broken ones first?

  75. Rex Cronon says:

    I really don’t think is fair to ask payment from those that make outside application for SL residents to use.
    Those programs can bring new users, and keep old users. Those programs provide a service to LL. Maybe LL should offer incentives for programmers to create applications that are meant to be used by SL residents.
    For example, I have a applet named SIEE(Sculpt Importer Exporter and Editor). So why should I pay LL, when what I made allows those that can’t afford Maya/Photoshop, to create sculpts a a very low price? With my program you don’t have to spend thousands of dollars to make sculpts. Maybe I should charge LL a percentage from every sculpt image that is uploaded, and was created with my program?

  76. Suzi Sohmers says:

    Rex, I think the l$250 is an anti-spamming device. Think about it, if they get 1000 contributions they raise less than $1000. You think LL cares about that? Still, would be nice if they maybe matched it dollar for dollar and gave the resulting sum to charity. You listening LL?

  77. Nupe Flossberg says:

    If you have a management team for your sl business or organization, I recommend using the terrific Google mail as a basis for communicating outside of the SL world.
    This comes in handy for communicating detail information during Linden upgrades prevent access to SL. My workplace has restricted access to SL and this is a pain if I need to communicate with key individuals.
    (This also probably allows me to work instead of goofing off as well)

    Google also has a huge number of add on SL specific modules that come in handy when setting up your custom home page.
    Be sure and set up the Google account with ONLY your in world information. This will maintain your anonymity and increase your productivity within your SL activities.
    As a privacy issue, still only give out your sl Google account to those that absolutely need it. Don’t distribute it willy nilly to keep the spam content down. If you have secondary avatars keep your sl gmail account general to prevent any connection with the other avatars.

    Nupe Flossberg

  78. Benja says:

    Jesse Linden: can you clarify the “non-refundable listing fee (L$250) per category submission”? Is this refundable if the application is rejected? If not, then it is a

    non-refundable APPLICATION fee (L$250) per category submission

    Thanks in advance.

  79. Angel Horner says:

    # 42 anonymouse1 Says:
    July 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 AM PDT

    No, dear. I’m what’s known as a realist. I like my privacy. I like to remain anonymous and it really bothers me when we’re forced to reveal ourselves against our will.

    AGAINST YOUR WILL? THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT. SERIOUSLY. THINK ABOUT IT!

    THIS IS A COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY GAME. NOTHING HERE IS FORCED UPON YOU. THIS IS A PRIVILEGE AND I’M SO SICK OF THE MISPLACED SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT I FIND IN THESE COMMENTS.

    I ALSO FIND IT HUMOROUS THAT YOU POST UNDER AN “ANONYMOUS” IDENTITY, CRY ABOUT NOT WANTING YOUR PRIVACY VIOLATED BUT TELL EVERYONE THAT YOU WILL BE WRITING A BOOK.

    ANYONE ELSE SEE THE FLAW IN THAT THINKING?

    *SIGH*

  80. Gareee taov says:

    Rex, where is SIEE available?

    Also when they are talking about tools, I think they men things like Mystitool, and Skizs prims type things.

  81. Cappy Frantisek says:

    @53 Gareee
    “Also when they are talking about tools, I think they men things like Mystitool, and Skizs prims type things.”

    I don’t think they mean it to be a Linden run SLX or SLB. It’s a repository for things like SLProfiles, Avimator and such that are useful for accomplishing things in SL. Most people don’t know these things are out there and Linden Labs wants to do anything they can to help keep people interested, because as I see it, many people are grtting bored with the same old, same old.

  82. thinker says:

    @50 – “You listening LL?”

    Looks hitorically like the stop listening blog comments after the post 30.
    On topic, I think it will be flooded with “classified like” things and it wont be consulted that much.

  83. Ravanne Sullivan says:

    Would products like my dance poles and related items be included? They definately help promote social interaction in SL.

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  84. CAPTAIN NORALUNGA says:

    Instead of more ideas…why don’t you fix the damned game ?? …the last update has severely affected performance…down by aroun 40 or 50%…… AND …..everything you buy or put in Inventory now stays in Recent Items…….. this really sucks…..
    JUST FORGET NEW IDEAS FOR NOW AND FIX SL……..AND HOW ABOUT A FORMAL RESPONSE TO THE OPEN LETTER????? ……

  85. Amanda Ascot says:

    I’m breaking my usual one-post-per-thread rule here because I’d like to address several issues I’ve been thinking about.

    First of all, I have no problem with paying less than one U.S. dollar to list something — if I’m making a profit on it, either in SL or in the Real World. I’d like to see tools and resources that are made available to residents at no cost be listed at no cost.

    That said, I think this L$250 fee is, as has already been pointed out, an anti-spamming device, and I’m really afraid that this new resource is going to become a dumping ground for all sorts of junk that nobody wants, even if there are a few jewels buried in the garbage, in spite of efforts by Linden Lab to keep the site useful.

    I’m also concerned about possible censorship of content that might be deemed “objectionable” by someone at Linden Lab. To me the “identity and discovery tools” that Jesse mentioned (and I point out that it was the very first example mentioned) would be “objectionable”. I wonder what Linden Lab thinks about SexGen beds, XCite! products, and camping “chairs” that have your avatar in a cage or impaled on a spike? Are these allowed to be listed, even though (at least in the first two cases) these are, indeed, tools which promote social interaction in-world?

  86. leswhite says:

    hmm, sorta seems redundant, not that I don’t like to pay you as I try to develop my corner of SL into something worth doing, but isn’t this overlapping on the classifieds which overlap on the search? Can it not be a Part of classified as a category instead of another stand alone fraction? …say yes.

    Why not leave the constant updating on the back of those who make the “tool” and get classifieds showing up on the web page? People want SL tools? Click the tools cat button on the SL classifieds web page. Gets everything happening clean at once, yes? Make it so! I wouldn’t mess around with half measure, temp, make work fluff like this.

    Final word, support your in game developers. Give us more tools. Not fluffy money sinks and tripe. We will make this place worth seeing. You just make it work like advertised.

    Thanks.

  87. pantaiputih korobase says:

    i also would appreciate to have the program stable first before setting up these actions to calm users down (just to be active and tell us you are alive with splendid ideas).
    since two days i see online counts becoming increasing again. this goes hand in hand with the incidence of my personal crashes.
    please tell us with PRIORITY what your plans for a stable, smoothly running program are if
    – 8.000.000 users have accounts and/or
    – 50.000 users are online
    best regards
    panta (kind of frustrated, not yet whining / for those who dislike whiners)

  88. Keera Woyseck says:

    Wow what a suprise.. yet another FEE attaached. Makes one really want to submit something for SL’s benifit.

  89. Rex Cronon says:

    #53: Gareee, SIEE is not yet available, because I am putting the final touches on it. It is working though. It converts to and from obj files, and allows some editing. I am also looking for a web hosting that doesn’t ask too many questions. It has a free mode(max sculpt size is 11×11, after one hour u have to reload it), and a pay mode, where u pay around 30$L to use it for like three hours(those values could be changed).

  90. Good idea to have a place for stuff like that…

    we found that there many tools and services arround, but difficult to find.

    we just brought up an new estate management tool to manage plot ownership and rent/tier…. so where to put something like that ?

    i think that´s the first place for tools like this kinda stuff.

    cheers
    Ralf

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  92. RicBrSp says:

    My number is:
    u=127d4e143bd442589da266d80f7deb97

  93. Vint says:

    @45, Laetizia:

    ‘…hard to find even the simplest things in/for SL’

    So they should just improve search? 😉

  94. Alyx Sands says:

    #56: If you are too lazy to read the release notes…it’s a feature, not a bug. You can actually SET the time something remains in “recent items”. Sheesh.

    Apart from that I think the idea is good-there are already many tools on the forums but it would be nice to have them available in a single place.

  95. kath McGill says:

    Ohh!! I have one! Double textured Prims!!
    Rez a prim.
    Hollow the prim
    Place a texture on the inside. (use edit linked and select texture, and your mouse to select the interior of the prim)

    Place a Second texture on the exterior that has some transparent areas.
    Flatten the Prim.

    Practical applications,
    You want a rock wall with Moss but you have only ONE prim to do it with.

    This works for both sides at the same time and gives a 3 d effect.

    have fun with it!!

    Kath

  96. anonymouse1 says:

    @#43 Hadley Yoshikawa “… av radars will eat your soul.”

    They didn’t say “radars” they said “Identity” 🙂 Someone else postulated that it might be radars. Radars are harmless and easy to write…. go look up how to you llSensorRepeat(..) to see what I mean.

    No… I simply took the opportunity to give the Lindens a little negative feedback, since they so richly deserve it recently. That being said… everything I said regarding LL’s direction is what I believe.

  97. Jesse Linden says:

    Thanks for the feedback everyone. To address a few quick points:

    – The category list is certainly up for debate. You guys have quickly pointed out some holes in the list and I thank you for that.

    – You’ve also guessed correctly that the listing fee is mostly an anti-spam measure. However, as an economic sink, it helps to justify the maintenance work that has to be done on the back end to keep the listings useful.

    – This is different from Classifieds in that there is no guarantee that we will publish your listing once you pay. We make it clear in the submission form that we are retaining full editorial control over this section of the site in order to make the Resource as useful as possible.

    – Identity and discovery is a broad expression for social networking platforms (things like myspace and facebook etc.) but especially SL-related. SLprofiles would be a good example of this type of service. We can assure you all privacy concerns will be respected here…

    In terms of adult content, let me check on that 😉

  98. Cliff Dieffenbach says:

    ^^I said that in post #9. Thank you Jesse.

  99. Broccoli Curry says:

    Ok we advertised one item in TWO categories, as it was appropriate for both. It’s been approved in one, and not the other.

    Why was this? It was appropriate for both categories. We wouldn’t have advertised it in both if I didn’t think it was.

    Beware people, you don’t get a refund if Linden Lab, in their individual judgement, don’t agree with the categories you offered your sites for. Yes, it’s theft, Yes, it’s wrong. No, there’s nothing it seems you can do about it.

    Broccoli

  100. Ravanne Sullivan says:

    A tool or service that is desperately needed is one that will translate the vague and ambiguous policies of LL in to something a normal person can understand. The new classified policy of not allowing anything that may in some way seem to if you kind of, sort of look at it in just the right way be possibly taken as having some referance to a casino but is in fact removing ads for things that no normal person would think is a casino is a case in point.

    (The run on sentance is intentional and the use of the word casino here will probably get this post removed even though it in no way promotes casinos.)

  101. Stephen Northport says:

    Uh, kids . . . $L250 is less than a buck. Have your latte without the add shot one day, or clean out the sofa. If you prickle at paying to list your own very generously offered community resource, ask your clients or fan group to pony up instead.

    And go check out Merlin Alphabeta’s adventure game development kit at his Candyland sim. It’s brilliant.

  102. Amiryu Hosoi says:

    64, i was thinking of some like that, We can set different textures to the region/estate -> ground textures. What i like to see is the abillity of setting/blending textures on a prim. Now that would really be a nice feature/tool.

    Cheers,

    Amiryu Hosoi

  103. Blinders Off says:

    LOL this is hilarious beyond belief. We’re supposed to submit OUR work, for the purpose of PROMOTING SECOND LIFE (which bottom line is a PROFIT-MAKING ENTERPRISE for Linden Lab), and for that privilege, we have to PAY L$250?

    LOL LOL LOL

  104. Burgundy Rahja says:

    So I paid my money, I posted my stuff. When will it be published?

    I do think if LL deciedes not to publish an item in a category they should return the L$ &/or make a suggestion “We think category xyz is more suitable – please resubmit” or “We cannot publish because of xyz mentioned”.

    How will LL promote this directory? Will it link to the classified searches in world?

  105. Catriona Decatur says:

    I love myself and you all should too (if you want to). My SL world was shattered with one of the early Voice Betas… met a lovely lady, beautiful dress. She drawls on in a Southern US accent about going out for a smoke. hahaha spit chew aaack…. I had visions of her sitting at the puter in her undies 24/7 on SL. I need a happy pill. Maybe the young Mr. Gore can fix me up?

  106. Ethen says:

    My idea is that you could add a web browser into the game on like a PC you could have for your house or something

  107. Darling Brody says:

    Can we submitt products that we are selling inside SL? Or is this only for free stuff we are giving away?

    I have a number of tools to help combat greifers on your land in my Quantum Products shop in Meyers. (blaintant advertising plug)

    Would things like a Prim Bin to stop prim litter, and State of Grace to stop weapons use quolify? Even though i sell them and wish to continue selling them at resonable price from the shop listed in my profile?

    Darling Brody
    (Posting after way too much caffeen)

  108. TheBlack Box says:

    I submitted my Sculpt Studio some days ago, which fits the description of a resident made tool 100%.

    It still doesn’t show up.

    What could be the reason ?

  109. Burgundy Rahja says:

    WWWhhhhaaa!! I want my $750: back….

    I just got 3 rejection notices from LL.

    It contained the following message:

    We are unable to publish your Resident Resource Link “Club Staff Picture Wall
    with
    On-duty, Pager &” under the “Retail & Shopping Sites” category.

    The reasons for this may include:

    * Your application was incomplete.

    * Your Resident Resource Link had inappropriate content.

    * Your Resident Resource Link did not fit our format.

    So lets see…

    – Was it incomplete .. Nope all fields filled out
    – Did not fit our format… Let’s see … no embedded html tages.. Text fitted in the box. Click on the link and it works.
    – Hmm Content was “inappropriate”
    Lets see .. text doesnt contain any obscene words .. no derogatory comments about race .. No links for porno web sites…

    Ok. I give up. Please give me my money back. This is all too hard.

    No wonder there was a court case in Pennsylvania .. what did they call it “a contract of adhesion”? Sort of like where you get charged in advance for a serivce, it is denied with no recourse, and your money is forfeited. Hmm

  110. emprrac amat says:

    A club where people can dance and perfrom but its all vampires and such. A whole place of mystics and magic from wiccans to vampires make the virtual expeirence more real. The club will be at 13thchamber.

  111. Burgundy Rahja says:

    LL seems to be censoring my comments on this post .. but I will keep trying in the hope that it is a “mistake”.

    I now have $1000L of posts into this list denied. All I am asking for is my L$ back. I will post into the classifieds instead!

    Sigh. I guess (LL service) buyer beware!

  112. Magian Merlin says:

    Interesting idea these Resident Resources. Of course, the implementation is done in a very typical Linden way of course: ambiguity rules!

    The resources page itself does not clearly indicated what is and what is not to be listed here. Also, it mentions that there is a $L250 cost associated with listing without saying this is non-refundable.

    Thinking I would get my resource listed for all Second Life citizens to enjoy it, I submitted my entry AFTER which I got a mail the process of submission is checked by Linden and takes at least 5 days. Ok fine, I can live with that.
    Yesterday, I get a mail that my listing is denied in 8 of the 9 categories I found it to be appropriate in. The mail does not give any clear indication why this is the case so I’m left to speculate.

    The next surprise is that when not listed you also DON’T get your money back. That is just theft. I can understand you have to pay for listing but that you don’t get your money back if you get denied listing, come on!
    Of course, the mail says that although denied, I can always reapply for a listing, which is going to cost me another non-refundable $L250 and I don’t even know why I got denied in the first place so what guarantees that I will get listed on the second attempt?

    I submitted a ticket to the support system AFTER which I got an email that as a non-premium member I’m not allowed to submit tickets in other category than basic login issues and therefore my question will be completely ignored by the support system.

    Why does Linden seem to make it a habit to always let you proceed first (and preferably pay for it too) to AFTERWARDS tell you you’re not allowed to do that. Is this what Robin Linden calls a communication policy? Well, that’s not what I call it. i leave it up to your imagination what I would call that.

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  114. Burgundy Rahja says:

    More woes on this service.

    1. Once you submit the accepted items are kept in a list. I updated the “accepted entry” (new url). The entry gets taken off the list and back into the needs to be approved category. Lets hope changing the URL doesnt get me “rejected”. The edited entry no longer appears on the Resident Resources site (even with the old URL or text).

    2. Eeck I pressed the delete icon by accident in that list. No “are you sure”. Yes I just blew my entry away. And yes I am stupid. I am now $1250 L down on this service. & I have no items actually listed anywhere and so no hope of any return.

    As I think about all this some more it is clear that LL has started this project and not staffed it appropriately. They publish on the main log in screen an invite to submit. Processing is unbearably slow (each entry is manually reviewed before posting!!!) Given the volume of posts I would expect from this type of post – is the LL process even reasonable without a significant assignment of staff? Is the need for the staff predictable in even offering this kind of service and something LL should have anticipated before launching this service?

    Would LL be better to adopt the model of a moderated list? IE By default approve and post and then do a periodic review (perhaps prompted in necessary by the community a la craig’s list).

    It seems to me this is all well intentioned on the part of some creative engineers at LL .. just a little naive on the part of LL management on what is required for this kind of service.

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